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Greg's avatar

I use hrv4training with a chest strap in the mornings but I also wear an oura as I like tracking overnight physiology and being able to track bed/wake times (the actionable step here is that I’m trying to shift my bedtime earlier).

But I agree! In the absence of actionable steps, why track x metric?

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Marco Altini's avatar

thanks Greg and agreed!

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Max Ohm's avatar

Thanks Marco for sharing your view on this topic, and reminding audience about the basics. How about tracking HR during sleep? I usually look at this indicator to correlate my morning feeling. I can also observe very low HR values, or sometime it doesn't go that low and it can confirm me this was too much exercise previous day or intense work out and I need another night sleep to regenerate fully. Same as you I do not look anymore at sleep stats on my Garmin simply because the start time is usually wrong (I often read on my Kindle in bed then after 15min fall asleep!).

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Marco Altini's avatar

same here Max! And agreed that physiology is what is informative, the rest can be useful context of course, but the way people over-analyze it is rather pointless to me (and often counterproductive!), for the reasons described here (a bit like training load is important context, but scores like TSS or else are full of flaws and of little use beyond "getting an idea of overall load").

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GZ's avatar

At first, I'd like to thank you for the entire blog - I've been reading that for a long time, but haven't commented yet. Regarding the sleep monitoring - it helped me a lot. I knew of course that eating much late and drinking alcohol affects the sleep quality, but only looking at the HRV charts collected during the night made me understand this really. As a result, I've changed my habits completely for those 2 factors. Thus, sleep tracking changed my life in a positive way. :)

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Marco Altini's avatar

great to hear, and thank you for taking the time to comment, I do appreciate it. I understand what you are saying, this is well aligned with how I see night HRV data (tightly coupled to behavior more than physiological readiness to assimilate additional stress). All the best!

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Eric's avatar

Hah, thanks for the detailed write up in addition to responding to my earlier question on this!

Apparently the Muse headband tracks brainwaves? Your other good points about actionability aside, could this actually work?

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Marco Altini's avatar

indeed. A step in the right direction maybe, but also.. just one channel, no EOG or EMG for eye movement and musuclar activity, which are important parts of how polisomnograhy works.. hence hard to get too excited about the accuracy here either, unfortunately.

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